I wonder whether, if we are ever looking back on this time through the rearview mirror, we will say “remember that time we said “this whole thing is moving so fast…’, and we just threw up our hands, maybe we should have finished the sentence with ‘maybe we should slow down and think it through’”. I wonder.
Great conversation. I appreciate you both so much. It’s nice to hear you look back & reflect on how far the movement to counter gender ideology has come. Onward!
The words leading up to the point, “it just feels so devoid of wisdom” lit my body up with their clarity and compassion. I also love and will borrow the framework of “it all appears to be so inorganic,” aka, just another (particularly) heavy suffering-inducing construct to lug around.
I’m using manufactured as a compliment to inorganic, though I understand how manufactured adds a suggestion of manipulation or someone driving it from ideological ends. In some cases I believe this to be true.
There have always been snake oil salesmen and conventional wisdom would (should) caution us all to actually interrogate extraordinary claims more scrupulously, but doing so has been deliberately kneecapped as a version of conversion therapy. This is what I mean when I say wisdom has become vice instead of virtue.
Do you mean by manufactured that there is some driving force to create discontent, where that is a possibility, with one's biological body in the area of secondary sexual characteristics and that this "force" is promoting using medication or surgery to solve the discontent? What do you mean by "wisdom seems to to have lapsed to the point of being more of a vice than a virtue?" I like to understand what a person intends me to understand, which often requires direct questions about the words used. (Please forgive my clumsiness here.)
I can only marvel at Sasha’s courage and fortitude in launching and maintaining a practice around this issue, before Lisa Littman even coined ROGD (or perhaps it was “safer” back then?) I hear in this interview the inspiration for this practice and wonder about the InspiredTeenTherapy name; was this social contagion the “inspiration”?
Hi Ann. The name of my practice was meant to reflect the best side of gender-questioning youth. They tend to be imaginative and inspired young people, along some with complexity and sometimes also sincere difficulties
I really enjoyed this lovely, open, honest conversation between the two of you, and I appreciated learning more about each of your explorations over time. Even though many of the contours were familiar, I found the way you each articulated and reflected on that valuable. I wish Sasha every success with this new venture.
The way Sasha is using the “two dimensional” forum of the web to support the development of “three dimensional thinking” is terrific. I think “kids these days” are not so different than they’ve ever been (and adults for that matter). The presence of the internet is a huge part of what is different!
Wow, I just checked out Sasha's videos on Youtube The Metaphor of Gender. What an amazing resource! Sasha exhibits so much wisdom around this topic especially around how to approach with kids, how to get into their listening and inspire them to be curious about what's going on with them, knowing that meeting it head on results in shutting down and resistance. So happy this exists!
I wonder whether, if we are ever looking back on this time through the rearview mirror, we will say “remember that time we said “this whole thing is moving so fast…’, and we just threw up our hands, maybe we should have finished the sentence with ‘maybe we should slow down and think it through’”. I wonder.
Great conversation. I appreciate you both so much. It’s nice to hear you look back & reflect on how far the movement to counter gender ideology has come. Onward!
The words leading up to the point, “it just feels so devoid of wisdom” lit my body up with their clarity and compassion. I also love and will borrow the framework of “it all appears to be so inorganic,” aka, just another (particularly) heavy suffering-inducing construct to lug around.
Beautiful interview, Lisa!!
I’m using manufactured as a compliment to inorganic, though I understand how manufactured adds a suggestion of manipulation or someone driving it from ideological ends. In some cases I believe this to be true.
There have always been snake oil salesmen and conventional wisdom would (should) caution us all to actually interrogate extraordinary claims more scrupulously, but doing so has been deliberately kneecapped as a version of conversion therapy. This is what I mean when I say wisdom has become vice instead of virtue.
Thanks for your thoughtful response
Manufactured almost, but I do agree that wisdom seems to have lapsed to the point of being more of a vice than a virtue.
Do you mean by manufactured that there is some driving force to create discontent, where that is a possibility, with one's biological body in the area of secondary sexual characteristics and that this "force" is promoting using medication or surgery to solve the discontent? What do you mean by "wisdom seems to to have lapsed to the point of being more of a vice than a virtue?" I like to understand what a person intends me to understand, which often requires direct questions about the words used. (Please forgive my clumsiness here.)
I can only marvel at Sasha’s courage and fortitude in launching and maintaining a practice around this issue, before Lisa Littman even coined ROGD (or perhaps it was “safer” back then?) I hear in this interview the inspiration for this practice and wonder about the InspiredTeenTherapy name; was this social contagion the “inspiration”?
Hi Ann. The name of my practice was meant to reflect the best side of gender-questioning youth. They tend to be imaginative and inspired young people, along some with complexity and sometimes also sincere difficulties
Perhaps you see this in them because you are so inspired❤️
Awww thank you!
Here’s to “queering” left versus right.
I really enjoyed this lovely, open, honest conversation between the two of you, and I appreciated learning more about each of your explorations over time. Even though many of the contours were familiar, I found the way you each articulated and reflected on that valuable. I wish Sasha every success with this new venture.
Thank you Susan
Great and interesting interview!
The way Sasha is using the “two dimensional” forum of the web to support the development of “three dimensional thinking” is terrific. I think “kids these days” are not so different than they’ve ever been (and adults for that matter). The presence of the internet is a huge part of what is different!
Wow, I just checked out Sasha's videos on Youtube The Metaphor of Gender. What an amazing resource! Sasha exhibits so much wisdom around this topic especially around how to approach with kids, how to get into their listening and inspire them to be curious about what's going on with them, knowing that meeting it head on results in shutting down and resistance. So happy this exists!
Hi Dana! Thanks so much!