It might help to know that this EO, though signed by Trump, was written by feminists. May Mailman of Independent Women’s Forum wrote the EO based on a legislation model co-written, in 2021, with WoLF (Women’s Liberation Front), to define the terms male and female, men and women in law. These feminists understood that legally defining the…
It might help to know that this EO, though signed by Trump, was written by feminists. May Mailman of Independent Women’s Forum wrote the EO based on a legislation model co-written, in 2021, with WoLF (Women’s Liberation Front), to define the terms male and female, men and women in law. These feminists understood that legally defining these terms was the first step to counteracting the unhinging from biology that trans ideology was social engineering into the culture.
Those of us who have followed this story, from the beginning, know that sex realists had to work with the Right because it was the only political entity that would listen to our cause and would enact policy. The Democrats, having been completely captured by trans/LGBT activists, were carried away with promoting wholesale all that the trans affirming activists demanded, because women were not speaking up, were being silenced or threatened with violence for speaking up.
Most would likely have lost their jobs and all their leftie friends if they had done so and yet many worked in secret with pseudonyms, and went to meetings with Democratic politicians about their concerns, and testified at public hearings only to be told over and over again that they were Right wing haters.
To now disparage or refuse to accept this EO because it was signed by a President so many find distasteful, is to spit on all of what these pioneering sex-realists worked so hard to achieve.
Good to know. I suspected feminists had drafted it and it's great to have that confirmed.
Proud to have donated to WoLF in the past and will make a gratitude donation this month.
This clarity will help protect young people, including gay and lesbian teens, from the tidal wave of pressure to medicalize and claim a different identity based on their "gender non-conformity." We need to know kids are accepted as they are and not made to feel they were somehow "born in the wrong body."
Of all the snake oil lies told in history, that one rates as a major whopper.
I agree. But what now, if we all believe that this is the win we hoped for? Is it enough to counteract all the negatives of a new Trump administration? As long as each of us speaks with her or his own honest voice about what we care about in terms of the real life effects of all Trump's EOs and other policies. As glad as I am for this EO, I keep thinking of that line from the song: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. In this case, I think Trump and company are already far worse than we bargained for. He just let violent Jan. 6 criminals out of jail, for G's sake. Well, I guess it's all a trade-off... hope it's worth it.
Yes this is the win we hoped for. The wording was more than we hoped for because it turned out we wrote it. But this is just the beginning of a fight even more contentious because, now, we sex-realists are not just a fringe group in the blue bubble that could be ignored. Now we are perceived to be in the red camp being patronized by a projected dictator and legally described felon.
We street activists will now face an even bigger crowd of what have been largely white male misogynists who now have double and triple the backing of the blue bubble because of the company we are perceived to be keeping. Luckily we are battle scared enough to have grown very thick skins and we have built a sizable twitter following at Women Are Real with which to shame them with our video recordings.
All of you trying to figure out how to resist Trump and his projected authoritarian rule sound like idealists. You cannot support us because you can't afford to support the idea of him rather than the reality of what we have achieved. We had nothing to do with Trump's other policies, but this EO is now our vehicle for fighting trans ideology.
Wow, your comment comes across as way out in left field if it's directed at my comment. You have no idea what motivates me and are out of line calling anything I said idealistic or whatever you implied, as if that's even a valid criticism. You're having tunnel vision, imo, and it shows, as if nothing else matters but fighting gender ideology. You and your "street activists" aren't the only ones who have stood up for women and girls (not to mention children in general, including boys and vulnerable adults, male and female) against gender ideology. As much as I agree with and support the EO, as I already said in one comment, I refuse to live in the bubble you seem to be living in. If you think Twitter/X isn't a bubble, you're mistaken, just as Substack can be a kind of bubble. I've supported you and others here in the past, but no more. Good luck to women and girls, and all children and vulnerable adults, if you think this EO and anything springing from it are all that stand between them and perdition.
I think what you are saying is that the polarization is very strong - D are for trans, R are for no-trans. That will make it hard to get a long-term solution, and has the possibility of snap-back in the next admin.
That's a non-response and it makes no sense. But thanks for your thoughtfulness. Context matters in everything. We can pretend it doesn't at our peril.
It might help to know that this EO, though signed by Trump, was written by feminists. May Mailman of Independent Women’s Forum wrote the EO based on a legislation model co-written, in 2021, with WoLF (Women’s Liberation Front), to define the terms male and female, men and women in law. These feminists understood that legally defining these terms was the first step to counteracting the unhinging from biology that trans ideology was social engineering into the culture.
Those of us who have followed this story, from the beginning, know that sex realists had to work with the Right because it was the only political entity that would listen to our cause and would enact policy. The Democrats, having been completely captured by trans/LGBT activists, were carried away with promoting wholesale all that the trans affirming activists demanded, because women were not speaking up, were being silenced or threatened with violence for speaking up.
Most would likely have lost their jobs and all their leftie friends if they had done so and yet many worked in secret with pseudonyms, and went to meetings with Democratic politicians about their concerns, and testified at public hearings only to be told over and over again that they were Right wing haters.
To now disparage or refuse to accept this EO because it was signed by a President so many find distasteful, is to spit on all of what these pioneering sex-realists worked so hard to achieve.
Good to know. I suspected feminists had drafted it and it's great to have that confirmed.
Proud to have donated to WoLF in the past and will make a gratitude donation this month.
This clarity will help protect young people, including gay and lesbian teens, from the tidal wave of pressure to medicalize and claim a different identity based on their "gender non-conformity." We need to know kids are accepted as they are and not made to feel they were somehow "born in the wrong body."
Of all the snake oil lies told in history, that one rates as a major whopper.
I agree. But what now, if we all believe that this is the win we hoped for? Is it enough to counteract all the negatives of a new Trump administration? As long as each of us speaks with her or his own honest voice about what we care about in terms of the real life effects of all Trump's EOs and other policies. As glad as I am for this EO, I keep thinking of that line from the song: Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. In this case, I think Trump and company are already far worse than we bargained for. He just let violent Jan. 6 criminals out of jail, for G's sake. Well, I guess it's all a trade-off... hope it's worth it.
Yes this is the win we hoped for. The wording was more than we hoped for because it turned out we wrote it. But this is just the beginning of a fight even more contentious because, now, we sex-realists are not just a fringe group in the blue bubble that could be ignored. Now we are perceived to be in the red camp being patronized by a projected dictator and legally described felon.
We street activists will now face an even bigger crowd of what have been largely white male misogynists who now have double and triple the backing of the blue bubble because of the company we are perceived to be keeping. Luckily we are battle scared enough to have grown very thick skins and we have built a sizable twitter following at Women Are Real with which to shame them with our video recordings.
All of you trying to figure out how to resist Trump and his projected authoritarian rule sound like idealists. You cannot support us because you can't afford to support the idea of him rather than the reality of what we have achieved. We had nothing to do with Trump's other policies, but this EO is now our vehicle for fighting trans ideology.
Wow, your comment comes across as way out in left field if it's directed at my comment. You have no idea what motivates me and are out of line calling anything I said idealistic or whatever you implied, as if that's even a valid criticism. You're having tunnel vision, imo, and it shows, as if nothing else matters but fighting gender ideology. You and your "street activists" aren't the only ones who have stood up for women and girls (not to mention children in general, including boys and vulnerable adults, male and female) against gender ideology. As much as I agree with and support the EO, as I already said in one comment, I refuse to live in the bubble you seem to be living in. If you think Twitter/X isn't a bubble, you're mistaken, just as Substack can be a kind of bubble. I've supported you and others here in the past, but no more. Good luck to women and girls, and all children and vulnerable adults, if you think this EO and anything springing from it are all that stand between them and perdition.
I think what you are saying is that the polarization is very strong - D are for trans, R are for no-trans. That will make it hard to get a long-term solution, and has the possibility of snap-back in the next admin.
Like dollarsandsense said above, this issue isn't about who said it, but what was said, in the EO.
That's a non-response and it makes no sense. But thanks for your thoughtfulness. Context matters in everything. We can pretend it doesn't at our peril.