I heard somewhere that autogynephilia is self-centered, instead of other-centered. I see this as a kind of acting out of internal psychological issues, as opposed to an actual sexual orientation. A kind of obsession with an idea of "femininity" in sex. What's the point? Not emotionally healthy, not that much in modern society, sexual and otherwise, is emotionally healthy. Should Phil be thanked for talking openly about this? Not necessarily, any more than the attitudes and behaviors of other self-centered people are anything to be thankful for.
Thank you for this interview. I appreciate Phil’s willingness to discuss things calmly even as people strongly disagree with him.
In relation to the question about things being enshrined in law: forced sterilization is technically still legal at the federal level because of a 1927 Supreme Court ruling that was never fully overturned. There are many laws that sit on the books that are ignored for many reasons. As for education, anyone who has spent many years in education will tell you that every few years, admin brings in the latest and greatest new idea that’s supposed to be *the* game changer in how kids are taught. And a few years later you throw all that out because there’s some shiny new big idea. Wash, rinse, repeat. Gender could just as easily go out in the next wash cycle for all but the most devoted schools or teachers.
I’d also like to join you, Lisa, in pushing back on Phil’s understanding of the intense levels of body discomfort and shame that come with female puberty. Since I know he accepts he is biologically make and based on his definition of gender, I’d like to respectfully suggest that he has a very male understanding of what girls experience, both in how they feel about their changing bodies, the challenges of being a developing female in society, how common it is for girls to adopt scripts and the strength of social contagion. I think you both would be extremely interested in Suzanne O’Sullivan’s book The Sleeping Beauties as a fascinating exploration of just how strong these forces are (note: this book never talks about gender dysphoria and the author has declined to comment on the very obvious similarities because she feels it’s outside her specialty)
Finally, I’d like to expand on how Lisa pushes back on the concept of AGP being taught to children. One factor in the anxieties and mental health issues children and teens have today comes from the well-intentioned but developmentally-misguided idea that we can prevent future suffering in both the world and the individual child by giving them adult information and understanding while they are still children. It’s an understandable desire, but those who work with and raise children and teens are often painfully aware it rarely works that way
I heard somewhere that autogynephilia is self-centered, instead of other-centered. I see this as a kind of acting out of internal psychological issues, as opposed to an actual sexual orientation. A kind of obsession with an idea of "femininity" in sex. What's the point? Not emotionally healthy, not that much in modern society, sexual and otherwise, is emotionally healthy. Should Phil be thanked for talking openly about this? Not necessarily, any more than the attitudes and behaviors of other self-centered people are anything to be thankful for.
Thank you for this interview. I appreciate Phil’s willingness to discuss things calmly even as people strongly disagree with him.
In relation to the question about things being enshrined in law: forced sterilization is technically still legal at the federal level because of a 1927 Supreme Court ruling that was never fully overturned. There are many laws that sit on the books that are ignored for many reasons. As for education, anyone who has spent many years in education will tell you that every few years, admin brings in the latest and greatest new idea that’s supposed to be *the* game changer in how kids are taught. And a few years later you throw all that out because there’s some shiny new big idea. Wash, rinse, repeat. Gender could just as easily go out in the next wash cycle for all but the most devoted schools or teachers.
I’d also like to join you, Lisa, in pushing back on Phil’s understanding of the intense levels of body discomfort and shame that come with female puberty. Since I know he accepts he is biologically make and based on his definition of gender, I’d like to respectfully suggest that he has a very male understanding of what girls experience, both in how they feel about their changing bodies, the challenges of being a developing female in society, how common it is for girls to adopt scripts and the strength of social contagion. I think you both would be extremely interested in Suzanne O’Sullivan’s book The Sleeping Beauties as a fascinating exploration of just how strong these forces are (note: this book never talks about gender dysphoria and the author has declined to comment on the very obvious similarities because she feels it’s outside her specialty)
Finally, I’d like to expand on how Lisa pushes back on the concept of AGP being taught to children. One factor in the anxieties and mental health issues children and teens have today comes from the well-intentioned but developmentally-misguided idea that we can prevent future suffering in both the world and the individual child by giving them adult information and understanding while they are still children. It’s an understandable desire, but those who work with and raise children and teens are often painfully aware it rarely works that way