I’m so pleased you heard that segment and posted it here. It was one of few things in this bleak period that gave me hope—including through a more complex understanding of the watch list. A good example of what you so justly note is what journalists are supposed to do: “offer readers and listeners enough context and information to make up their own minds. They can complicate things for us, meld the black and white into shades of gray.” Thank you for this post, for this glimmer of hope, and for your own efforts, as a journalist and person, to model what journalists should do in your own work.🙏👏🙏
Heather Cox Richardson wrote that she got “doxed” by being placed on the professor list. I don’t know what she meant by that; is there private residential, etc information on it that leads to being endangered, or is she exaggerating the alleged threat by being placed on the list?
“Trans rights” activists have been intimidating gender critical voices on college campuses for years now. As one example among many, Carole Hooven was hounded out of her job at Harvard for saying sex is real. I’m willing to bet that NPR said absolutely nothing about that. Ditto most of the MSM. The hypocrisy is absolutely breathtaking.
Ezra's conversation with Ben Shapiro is a must-listen, as I have commented elsewhere. I don't buy all of Shapiro's narrative of "how we got here", nor does Ezra (and he pushes back appropriately), but I did have several ah-ha moments in the 90-minute discussion where I was compelled to a genuine desire to understand how the other side sees the last 30 years. And there were at least a few times where I think we need to take the L.
Well, the "professor watch list" did lead to severe personal harassment of those on the list by non-students (and students) even though I think the list could have been used, also, for better purposes. Turning Point knew that harassment happened so it is I think a fair criticism of Kirk and his followers. I could link to stories about the harassment if anyone wants. I think the chances of violence whenever these lists are created are obvious and a problem. Yes, the Transgender Map is worse - it is designed solely for harassment - but the Professor Watch List was used in inhumane ways.
Can you help me understand how this is different or worse than what happened to, (just two of many examples) Carole Hooven or Roland Fryer? I am not trying to what about this, but I am trying to understand why one is a terrible creation of a watchlist and doxxing etc and the resulting harrassment is terrible and means the creator of the list is a fascist, evil, unofrgivable bigot and the other targeting and doxing is the important and worthy creation of a safe campus and the resulting harassment is a just result for people who say things that offend the righteous on campus.
I find it hard to watch people who created watchlists and whisper networks about conservative professors that drove some out of their jobs then be up in arms and visctimhood when their political opponents adopt these successful tactics. And I say this as a left leaning person who was horrified when the left first drove people like Roland Fryer out and then horrified again when the right copied them!
Reasons to renew: this fabulous writing today. Reasons to hesitate: The nonstop verification code thing. (I had to do it twice to get through, but no, it won't stop me from renewing, just venting) Perhaps you have all alreaady seen this, it's been circulating on Instagram: John Cleese on extremism. It says it all about righteousness and hypocricy and only ever criticizing those making the other argument. Plus, it's hysterical.
I am sponsoring the cost of attending Charlie Kirk's funeral for detransitioner, Simon Amaya Price. The shift is in the fact that main stream media has to admit that the trans movement is detrimental to society and there are now about 10 trans identified individuals who have murdered in the mass murder mode. I'll add the crossdressing husbands, who murdered their wives as they tried to leave, the husbands of Olesya Sinkova, Jennifer Anderson and Beverly Guenther. The ACLU is suing the state of Indiana to pay for Beverly Guenther's murderer to have "sex reassignment surgeries." You've noted here, Lisa, that I am some kind of radical for refusing to meet you after you hosted trans apologist, Susan/Buck Angel. As we Jews do prior to Yom Kippur, I forgive you. Ute
I specifically disagree that the left has not had recent excess of violence. This could be due to the Free Palestine movement, BLM, and most recently the greenlighting of violence in support of the Trans Rights Movement. The right had J6, but the left had nearly all of 2020. The other factors that could explain the tides of violence is the change in political momentum, or perceived momentum. The past, however is just the past. We need to prevent future violence on the right, which means specific denunciations on the right. The left also needs to police its own. The cancel orgy was possibly a needed release valve to prevent retaliatory right wing violence, but I think another violent incident could kick it off again. Every human is capable of this, and the relative lack of right wing violence recently has been heartening.
It is clearly more common on the left, clearly. Over the past 6 years the trend has been obvious. They may be gaming the stats you cite by including “hate crimes”, which are going to default to being right wing coded. Noah Rothman is one of the best conservative Trump critical voices, and he can't get the book out on left wing violence because more and more events are added to the list. https://youtu.be/RWOJGOtw7Vg?feature=shared mangione was more celebrated in the left, though he was a centrist, and the murderer of the Minnesota congresswoman was probably on the right (his statement said he was killing on behalf of Tim Walz, but I think this was a false flag). The Palestinian violence is coming from left wing Jew haters, and the trans violence is left wing. The ambush on the ICE facility in Alvarado recently was Antifa, the murder of cops in Seattle in 2020 was leftist, the killing of 5 cops here in Dallas was to avenge unjust killings of Blacks and there was a similar incident in Louisiana. The firebombing of crisis pregnancy centers probably is not being done by the John Birch society and all of the campus protests silencing people are left wing. Nobody claiming the right is responsible for more violence is leading with a list of anecdotal, I have seen 3 separate stat sheets--if they had to list the events of prominent acts of political violence, they would immediately lose the argument. You need crummy methodology to bury the truth, just like 0.12 percent of mass shootings are carried out by trans people. They stretch the definition of mass shooting behind the definition we all are implying, and run the numbers until they massage the result. Much of the crime is left in left, Palestinian terrorists going after Jews, in particular, but that is still left wing violence. The media won't cover it, because it doesn't want to question the narrative.
I’m so pleased you heard that segment and posted it here. It was one of few things in this bleak period that gave me hope—including through a more complex understanding of the watch list. A good example of what you so justly note is what journalists are supposed to do: “offer readers and listeners enough context and information to make up their own minds. They can complicate things for us, meld the black and white into shades of gray.” Thank you for this post, for this glimmer of hope, and for your own efforts, as a journalist and person, to model what journalists should do in your own work.🙏👏🙏
Heather Cox Richardson wrote that she got “doxed” by being placed on the professor list. I don’t know what she meant by that; is there private residential, etc information on it that leads to being endangered, or is she exaggerating the alleged threat by being placed on the list?
“Trans rights” activists have been intimidating gender critical voices on college campuses for years now. As one example among many, Carole Hooven was hounded out of her job at Harvard for saying sex is real. I’m willing to bet that NPR said absolutely nothing about that. Ditto most of the MSM. The hypocrisy is absolutely breathtaking.
Ezra's conversation with Ben Shapiro is a must-listen, as I have commented elsewhere. I don't buy all of Shapiro's narrative of "how we got here", nor does Ezra (and he pushes back appropriately), but I did have several ah-ha moments in the 90-minute discussion where I was compelled to a genuine desire to understand how the other side sees the last 30 years. And there were at least a few times where I think we need to take the L.
Well, the "professor watch list" did lead to severe personal harassment of those on the list by non-students (and students) even though I think the list could have been used, also, for better purposes. Turning Point knew that harassment happened so it is I think a fair criticism of Kirk and his followers. I could link to stories about the harassment if anyone wants. I think the chances of violence whenever these lists are created are obvious and a problem. Yes, the Transgender Map is worse - it is designed solely for harassment - but the Professor Watch List was used in inhumane ways.
Good point!
Can you help me understand how this is different or worse than what happened to, (just two of many examples) Carole Hooven or Roland Fryer? I am not trying to what about this, but I am trying to understand why one is a terrible creation of a watchlist and doxxing etc and the resulting harrassment is terrible and means the creator of the list is a fascist, evil, unofrgivable bigot and the other targeting and doxing is the important and worthy creation of a safe campus and the resulting harassment is a just result for people who say things that offend the righteous on campus.
I find it hard to watch people who created watchlists and whisper networks about conservative professors that drove some out of their jobs then be up in arms and visctimhood when their political opponents adopt these successful tactics. And I say this as a left leaning person who was horrified when the left first drove people like Roland Fryer out and then horrified again when the right copied them!
Right - I hate both.
Reasons to renew: this fabulous writing today. Reasons to hesitate: The nonstop verification code thing. (I had to do it twice to get through, but no, it won't stop me from renewing, just venting) Perhaps you have all alreaady seen this, it's been circulating on Instagram: John Cleese on extremism. It says it all about righteousness and hypocricy and only ever criticizing those making the other argument. Plus, it's hysterical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLNhPMQnWu4
We live in a world that is what it is....and misrepresenting it to stoke hatred, dehumanization, and violence is something I am very much against.
True. It is what it is. A phrase I used to hate but which now brings me great comfort.
I am sponsoring the cost of attending Charlie Kirk's funeral for detransitioner, Simon Amaya Price. The shift is in the fact that main stream media has to admit that the trans movement is detrimental to society and there are now about 10 trans identified individuals who have murdered in the mass murder mode. I'll add the crossdressing husbands, who murdered their wives as they tried to leave, the husbands of Olesya Sinkova, Jennifer Anderson and Beverly Guenther. The ACLU is suing the state of Indiana to pay for Beverly Guenther's murderer to have "sex reassignment surgeries." You've noted here, Lisa, that I am some kind of radical for refusing to meet you after you hosted trans apologist, Susan/Buck Angel. As we Jews do prior to Yom Kippur, I forgive you. Ute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHRqk8IPJPI&t=702s
I specifically disagree that the left has not had recent excess of violence. This could be due to the Free Palestine movement, BLM, and most recently the greenlighting of violence in support of the Trans Rights Movement. The right had J6, but the left had nearly all of 2020. The other factors that could explain the tides of violence is the change in political momentum, or perceived momentum. The past, however is just the past. We need to prevent future violence on the right, which means specific denunciations on the right. The left also needs to police its own. The cancel orgy was possibly a needed release valve to prevent retaliatory right wing violence, but I think another violent incident could kick it off again. Every human is capable of this, and the relative lack of right wing violence recently has been heartening.
I didn't say there wasn't ANY violence from the left. It's just more common on the right. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/09/12/is-radical-left-violence-really-on-the-rise-in-america?taid=9c96d491-67e3-4365-9911-6676b8f282a3&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
It is clearly more common on the left, clearly. Over the past 6 years the trend has been obvious. They may be gaming the stats you cite by including “hate crimes”, which are going to default to being right wing coded. Noah Rothman is one of the best conservative Trump critical voices, and he can't get the book out on left wing violence because more and more events are added to the list. https://youtu.be/RWOJGOtw7Vg?feature=shared mangione was more celebrated in the left, though he was a centrist, and the murderer of the Minnesota congresswoman was probably on the right (his statement said he was killing on behalf of Tim Walz, but I think this was a false flag). The Palestinian violence is coming from left wing Jew haters, and the trans violence is left wing. The ambush on the ICE facility in Alvarado recently was Antifa, the murder of cops in Seattle in 2020 was leftist, the killing of 5 cops here in Dallas was to avenge unjust killings of Blacks and there was a similar incident in Louisiana. The firebombing of crisis pregnancy centers probably is not being done by the John Birch society and all of the campus protests silencing people are left wing. Nobody claiming the right is responsible for more violence is leading with a list of anecdotal, I have seen 3 separate stat sheets--if they had to list the events of prominent acts of political violence, they would immediately lose the argument. You need crummy methodology to bury the truth, just like 0.12 percent of mass shootings are carried out by trans people. They stretch the definition of mass shooting behind the definition we all are implying, and run the numbers until they massage the result. Much of the crime is left in left, Palestinian terrorists going after Jews, in particular, but that is still left wing violence. The media won't cover it, because it doesn't want to question the narrative.