Thank you for another excellent round up and for sharing Nyla DuBois' thorough and informative letter to the Marblehead Beacon. Question for Nyla: how would she feel if we shared it, and or used it, in writing our own letters? Or if we kept a running file of: references to Europe, references to the suicide myth, gender affirming care is not a "civil right", so that it's easy to get these letters out?
So true! My own view is that this video is Exhibit A for malpractice suits. Remarkably, though, when I sent this out to some friends, certain they would finally get the message, one wrote back to say she finally had to speak up to let me know she thought I was wrong about the trans stuff. (She hadn’t watched the video; she just made assumptions.) The brain freeze so many people I know experience when they see the word “queer” or “trans” is astonishing.
Has she why she thinks you are wrong? Has she repeated the rote "All major medical associations agree that ......" or "41% attempt suicide...." etc. Take a look at this.....2 minutes....stunning:
No, none of that. She is older, wasn’t aware of what was actually happening, and has no friends or neighbors who have been affected by this. I was able to open the door a crack and hopefully can build from there.
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I wish you had written "a Seattle teen is suing HER health insurance provider for refusing to pay for a double mastectomy on a minor", instead of THEIR.
Another great round-up! I second in highly commending the Hannah Barnes interview. Even if you’ve read Time to Think, and definitely if you haven’t, she does a meticulously fair and clear job of discussing the issues and evidence. This is journalism at its best.
Also, on the ruling re Semenya, I highly commend Emma Hilton’s interview on BBC’s Inside Science--starts at about 24:30: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001np6v?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile Hilton, like Barnes, is scrupulously fair about the science and attendant issues. She is careful, also, not to demonize Semenya and others with DSDs, and I think her approach is well-considered. From what Hilton describes (which in part builds on what she and Ross Tucker have previously explained), I believe we are best served by addressing these issues on the basis of the science, which has advanced to give us much more information and capability to make judgments about what is fair to all than was previously the case. I really do believe, if we can stick to getting the science right, and can get away from the heightened and partisan discourse (I know, not easy!), we will have a far greater chance of getting a fair result.
Summer camps have been hiding "transition" explorations from the parents of campers for years. A mother of a (now adult) ROGD teen girl (I write in natal sex terminology only) living in Cincinnati sent her daughter to a Catholic camp in central Wisconsin for part of the summer. She came back completely indoctrinated, chest binders had been provided, as had hair dyes. So much for the summer camp experience of communing with the out of doors. As an adult, this daughter, one of three grown children in the family, has cut out both her parents from her life, but will occasionally deign to meet a her brother or sister. The mother has heard, recently from the siblings, that the cross-sex ideating daughter rents a room from a cross-sex ideating man who is much older. She's starting to call herself non-binary, but is apparently reluctant to tell her landlord. The testosterone she's been on now for a couple of years has probably had permanent effects.
Ha, ha! I was visiting the city of Lincoln in the UK a number of years ago and was childishly delighted to see that they call a bridge there the Glory Hole (with lots of signage for me to take pictures of). This is reminding me that I didn't mention the Florida ruling that females must be allowed in the nude areas of the hitherto male-only New Orleans House gay resort. There's so much going on each week!
I think this will be of interest. An organization called The Bad Law Project in the UK is preparing to sue the UK Department of Education. The suit the Project is planning bring is described here: https://twitter.com/BadLawTeam/status/1680137789508136960 The Project also refers to a report published about these issues that compiled a lot of information about what is being taught in schools related to gender identity, etc. That can be found here: https://policyexchange.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Asleep-at-the-Wheel.pdf
Thanks for this, Susan. It would be interesting to know whether this gets "mainstream" attention or support in the UK? Certainly, there is a former Labour minister and a current MP at the top of the report - but when you dig into the "Reclaim Party" manifesto, you get: "there is no climate emergency" and "the level of migration to the UK should be determined by the people who live here". How do we work in a bi-partisan way to get support for our concerns about "gender identity" in schools and "gender affirming care"?
Yes, this is always the question--gaining bipartisan support without attendant problematic stances. I view things like the report and legal initiative as things to watch and see how they fare, but would not share them outside a small circle without vetting them as fully as possible.
Thank you for another excellent round up and for sharing Nyla DuBois' thorough and informative letter to the Marblehead Beacon. Question for Nyla: how would she feel if we shared it, and or used it, in writing our own letters? Or if we kept a running file of: references to Europe, references to the suicide myth, gender affirming care is not a "civil right", so that it's easy to get these letters out?
This twitter thread is much worth your 4 minutes...really disturbing excerpt from interview.
https://twitter.com/benappel/status/1679348549543157761
So true! My own view is that this video is Exhibit A for malpractice suits. Remarkably, though, when I sent this out to some friends, certain they would finally get the message, one wrote back to say she finally had to speak up to let me know she thought I was wrong about the trans stuff. (She hadn’t watched the video; she just made assumptions.) The brain freeze so many people I know experience when they see the word “queer” or “trans” is astonishing.
Check this out:
https://genderclinicnews.substack.com/p/blocked-and-retorted
Has she why she thinks you are wrong? Has she repeated the rote "All major medical associations agree that ......" or "41% attempt suicide...." etc. Take a look at this.....2 minutes....stunning:
https://twitter.com/theneonrequiem/status/1677759118218502144
No, none of that. She is older, wasn’t aware of what was actually happening, and has no friends or neighbors who have been affected by this. I was able to open the door a crack and hopefully can build from there.
I wish you had written "a Seattle teen is suing HER health insurance provider for refusing to pay for a double mastectomy on a minor", instead of THEIR.
Really love these weekly recaps, Kate! Thanks to you and Lisa for putting them out.
Another great round-up! I second in highly commending the Hannah Barnes interview. Even if you’ve read Time to Think, and definitely if you haven’t, she does a meticulously fair and clear job of discussing the issues and evidence. This is journalism at its best.
Also, on the ruling re Semenya, I highly commend Emma Hilton’s interview on BBC’s Inside Science--starts at about 24:30: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001np6v?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile Hilton, like Barnes, is scrupulously fair about the science and attendant issues. She is careful, also, not to demonize Semenya and others with DSDs, and I think her approach is well-considered. From what Hilton describes (which in part builds on what she and Ross Tucker have previously explained), I believe we are best served by addressing these issues on the basis of the science, which has advanced to give us much more information and capability to make judgments about what is fair to all than was previously the case. I really do believe, if we can stick to getting the science right, and can get away from the heightened and partisan discourse (I know, not easy!), we will have a far greater chance of getting a fair result.
Summer camps have been hiding "transition" explorations from the parents of campers for years. A mother of a (now adult) ROGD teen girl (I write in natal sex terminology only) living in Cincinnati sent her daughter to a Catholic camp in central Wisconsin for part of the summer. She came back completely indoctrinated, chest binders had been provided, as had hair dyes. So much for the summer camp experience of communing with the out of doors. As an adult, this daughter, one of three grown children in the family, has cut out both her parents from her life, but will occasionally deign to meet a her brother or sister. The mother has heard, recently from the siblings, that the cross-sex ideating daughter rents a room from a cross-sex ideating man who is much older. She's starting to call herself non-binary, but is apparently reluctant to tell her landlord. The testosterone she's been on now for a couple of years has probably had permanent effects.
I always joke we should just call the vagina a “glory hole” at this point.
Ha, ha! I was visiting the city of Lincoln in the UK a number of years ago and was childishly delighted to see that they call a bridge there the Glory Hole (with lots of signage for me to take pictures of). This is reminding me that I didn't mention the Florida ruling that females must be allowed in the nude areas of the hitherto male-only New Orleans House gay resort. There's so much going on each week!
Superb interview with Bev Jackson of the LGBAlliance: https://savageminds.substack.com/p/bev-jackson
Thank you for this! Just listened. Excellent interview.
I think this will be of interest. An organization called The Bad Law Project in the UK is preparing to sue the UK Department of Education. The suit the Project is planning bring is described here: https://twitter.com/BadLawTeam/status/1680137789508136960 The Project also refers to a report published about these issues that compiled a lot of information about what is being taught in schools related to gender identity, etc. That can be found here: https://policyexchange.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/Asleep-at-the-Wheel.pdf
Thanks for this, Susan. It would be interesting to know whether this gets "mainstream" attention or support in the UK? Certainly, there is a former Labour minister and a current MP at the top of the report - but when you dig into the "Reclaim Party" manifesto, you get: "there is no climate emergency" and "the level of migration to the UK should be determined by the people who live here". How do we work in a bi-partisan way to get support for our concerns about "gender identity" in schools and "gender affirming care"?
Yes, this is always the question--gaining bipartisan support without attendant problematic stances. I view things like the report and legal initiative as things to watch and see how they fare, but would not share them outside a small circle without vetting them as fully as possible.