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Jan Brogan's avatar

The writing here is terrific, especially the comparison to getting kids to clean up their rooms.

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Rags's avatar

I'm not sure I understand the analogy. As the parent, you want your kid to clean up the room, so you ask nicely, then with increasing volume, till you end up yelling. Ok. But your intent is essentially reasonable and benevolent-- you want a clean house. You're not telling the kids they are evil perverts because they delayed cleaning up.

I don't think the intent of this executive order is just to get the room cleaned up, and have youth gender medicine become more scientific and evidence driven. I think it's more to polarize and divide. I don't really see Trump as the adult in this, or any, room.

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Cecilia Caporossi's avatar

Executive orders are not written by presidents, theyтАЩre written by experts on a particular subject, and then approved and signed by the president. A feminist lawyer wrote TrumpтАЩs gender executive order.

And the order doesnтАЩt call kids evil perverts. I would think that those who think itтАЩs ever okay to castrate and sterilize healthy children are the evil perverts. ЁЯд╖тАНтЩАя╕П

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J Chicago's avatar

It's to stop the non-evidence based (that would be the reasoning with the kids) medical scandal underway in this country.

He ("he" the president, really whoever wrote it) asked for a review of best practices by HHS.

Now, GLAAD, HRC, ACLU *could say*: wow, the evidence isn't very good, we should be fighting to get outcomes to protect these kids so that they get the best care possible! Let's do that! Hey, it looks like we're actually medicalizing a lot of gay kids and other distressed people--hit the brakes, now! (Think if we suddenly found out a treatment for some other childhood condition was causing a lot of harm and despair down the road and wasn't even shown to help every time a study looked, and people realized they'd been only looking at selective, in some cases "honeymoon," outcomes.)

I'm thinking the families aren't going to be told that. They're going to be told that the president and Republicans hate them and want them to not get the "care" that will make them happy. And maybe the false "lifesaving" myth, violating suicide prevention guidelines.

We Democrats, as a party, didn't need to take the "side" of unproven invasive medical interventions on kids. No political party needed to.

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Notes from the Under Dog L.'s avatar

The analogy doesnтАЩt work because we who saw the trans thing for the grift it us were not allowed to express this or otherwise be exiled. It wasnтАЩt a polite order that went unheeded; there was bonafide censorship on Twitter and elsewhere preventing us from speaking.

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Jan Brogan's avatar

But medicine and education and big pharma definitely werenтАЩt going to clean up the room. And it needed cleaning.

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George Q Tyrebyter's avatar

Wow. You seem to have slept thru the past 10 years. The trans madness has prevailed not by science or truth, but by endless merciless bullying. The worm has turned, the adults are back, and we are going to restore sanity to the delusional psychosis of trannidumb.

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George Q Tyrebyter's avatar

I remember a lot of yelling at the kids. I guess everyone does it. I didn't yell enough - 2 of the 3 are complete disasters about tidying up.

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Jan Brogan's avatar

Rags: But medicine and education and big pharma definitely werenтАЩt going to clean up the room. And it needed cleaning.

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