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KateP's avatar

Great piece, Lisa. I love your relentless quest for pluralistic dialogue, and I share your experience of getting flak from both sides on a range of issues.

On the trans issue, I have to admit that after learning everything I could about this topic, I don't see much of a middle ground anymore. While I don't share the attitude of some on the gender critical side that all heterosexual trans-identified men are disgusting fetishists to be reviled, and I obviously think the people who have been caught up in that belief system and have irrevocably altered their bodies must be treated with compassion, and that adults should be free to believe themselves to be whatever they want, I do not think that there should be any forced societal participation in their beliefs - i.e. no access for males to female spaces, no teaching in schools about "gender identity", no insurance coverage for "gender affirming" interventions. No social pressure to pretend that "being trans" is an innate condition rather than a coping mechanism for other issues. So where is the middle ground to be found?

The problem with viewpoint diversity around the trans issue is that it is inherently at odds with a live-and-let-live approach, because nobody can "be trans" without societal endorsement of and participation in their belief system. Saying "sure, you can believe that you are really a woman even if you were born with a male body, but I won't pretend that is true" to a trans-identified person equals violence to them, the erasure of their very existence. Due to their belief's fundamental dependence of social affirmation, they will never agree to disagree, and allow you to view their belief as a creed as valid as the faith in the Trinity or the Immaculate Conception, which they are free to hold while you do not partake. They NEED us all to partake, and so viewpoint diversity on this issue is fundamentally impossible due to the inherent demands of the belief system itself.

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Great piece, as usual, Lisa. Also, your including that detail of the "help" from ChatGTP (a person I know refers to it as "ChatAGP," BTW) is a good reminder to the rest of us that "garbage in; garbage out" definitely applies to LLMs, which anyone who's attempted to get an AI Chatbot to apply logic to its regurgitated trans narrative-fueled pronouncements quickly discovers.

Lisa's piece is particularly timely for me, as I am reeling a bit after listening to most of an interview with Katy Faust on the Genspect youtube channel . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwZtluOB11Q

Things are complicated and we're all guilty of imagining silver bullets to solve intractable problems whenever we practice the selective attention that our limited cognitions require. We all need a lot of exposure to our philosophical and political opponents' worldviews to at least reduce the number of hard realities we're doomed to blunder into as flawed and myopic human beings. As a kid experiencing Barnum and Bailey for the first time, I remember the frustration of having to miss out on large parts of the show because of the three-ring format. Considering the infinite-ringed circus nature of Life, it's only reasonable to remember how much we actually do need constant reports from the vantage points of many others who are living theirs under very different conditions and in very different places.

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