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I have so much to think and say about this article Lisa that I don't know where to start. I'm from Dutch descent (I emigrated to Australia when I was 35) and I'm a lifelong lesbian. I'm finding myself revisiting my past sexual development a lot while being overwhelmed for the past 10 years with the explosion of gender identity ideology all around the world. I must say that I appreciate this wasn't happening while I was coming to terms with my attraction to other girls and women. I was free to invent myself as a lesbian without any influence from outside. When I fell in love with my first women lover in 1972, I realized why I'd been so depressed during adolescence, and why I'd been pretending to fall in love with men while I was never attracted to any of them. I loved hanging out with other girls and older women and had constant crushes on them. Being raised in quite a fundamentalist Roman Catholic church community actually helped to surround myself with women. Men and women lived quite segregated lives so I attended girl schools, was in girl scouting groups for 10+ years, and when I moved out of home at 17, I went into nursing training at a large Catholic institution for intellectually disabled girls and women, run by nuns. It feels like I grew up in a matriarchy with my mother and four sisters at home (and my Dad and three brothers), lots of aunts and nieces and cousins. So being warned against 'men' in general, but experimenting with my sexuality was overall done in a reasonably 'safe' and controlled environment. I also came of age in hippie times and a time of huge societal changes in all layers of religions and political persuasions. The Netherlands takes in a unique place during those revolutions that raged around me that not many people are aware off unless you were in it. It is why the Netherlands has the reputation of being so open minded and progressive. Thanks to the young generations who rebelled against conservatism and dogmatic religions from the late 1950s (Rock & Roll) throughout the 1970s and 80s. Before I became an out lesbian, I was a hippie first! A guitar playing festival goer wearing Indian clothing and smoking my first joints. I wrote and self published a book about my coming out process to describe the revolutionary times that I experienced then. I was more or less allowed to invent myself as a lesbian and was at the forefront of starting lesbian talking groups which evolved into lesbian and women's liberation movement. I was in the thick of that in the Netherlands all through the 1970s and 80s until I left Europe in 1988. I am deeply saddened that the thriving lesbian and women's liberation movement disappeared due to several factors, one of which was the rise of the men's rights movement but also transsexuals asserting themselves and demanding access to women only spaces, even taking over cafes and bookshops and meeting places that had been established by lesbian and women radical feminists. I've had some interactions with a Dutch detransitioner who was 'treated' with puberty blockers and testosterone as a young teenager at the Amsterdam university gender clinic but has since come to terms with being a lesbian all along. I am shocked to the core that 'homosexuality' does not feature in the research paper, or sexual function/development. And I feel deeply saddened that young girls growing up today have no positive lesbian role models or a lesbian culture to turn to and be welcomed by. I asked this now lesbian detransitioner if it would have been different for her if she'd had strong lesbian icons to admire and look up to, lesbians who'd appear on music shows, in news interviews, as a 'normal' cohort in society. She instantly answered that yes, it would have. What has happened to lesbianism and the strong culture that once thrived? Why was the Michigan Womyns Music Festival and all other festivals and events closed down? We need to analyze that because I am convinced it was a deliberate tactic and backlash against authentic and autonomous women loving women that threatened male dominated societies. The explosive rise in young women rejecting their womanhood and turning to 'transgender' clinics, is in my view a direct result of this backlash. AND the abolition of sex and women's studies at universities which lead to the introduction of 'gender' ideology, has proven to be detrimental to the psychological and sexual development of young girls and adolescent women. I must leave it here and I am writing a follow up book about this, but I feel unbearably distressed about young women growing up in a void of having no lesbian or women centred culture to turn to since patriarchal dominance has reinvented itself via transgenderism and self identification sex/gender changes but also the internalized misogyny by women in high political positions who are now imposing gender identity ideology in many countries. Transgender activists and lobbyists have been silently active behind the scenes for many decades. And now we see 'trans' women rise to the highest positions, overtaking empowered women born female. Can you all see what this is leading to? Every day pennies are dropping in my head. Every day a young woman is cutting off her breasts. I see them around me in the streets and parks. What is this telling us?

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I recommend becoming a paid subscriber to Lisa Selin Davis! I am. Thanks Lisa, for making the comment section open to all. An important fact not often covered is that those 2 seminal Dutch studies in 2011 and 2014 were partly FUNDED by a Dutch pharma company which manufactures gonadatrophin agonists--meaning a type of Lupron. When pharma companies fund studies, they influence which conclusions the researchers state. Thus, these famous Dutch researchers are compromised. Also, they don't want to be treated like Dr. Lisa Littman was, when she published an absolutely spot on, correct seminal study on Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria teens.

The fact is that all of the blockers and cross-sex hormones damage the body long term and a different path must be forged. Also, why do these doctors and researchers not know how much teen girls always detest the changes puberty brings? Also, why is so much of the "education" on cross-sex ideation all about sexual orientation and sexual concepts children aren't supposed to understand if they are not being sexually used or molested? Below, my read of Dr. Stephen B. Levine's statements in an expert testimony paper. That means there was a malpractice case--in West Virginia!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FENgXNaldnA&t=277s

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