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I have to wonder: if sex is in a spectrum, how can one “identify as a woman” (or a man)? What is a woman if there is no bright line here? Isn’t the point of sex being on a spectrum to say that almost nobody is a “woman” or a “man” because we’re all someplace on a sliding scale and have aspects of both? Sure, there would be a few Barbies or Ken’s who have only characteristics of a “man” or a “woman,” but most of us would not be either.

In that case, why are so many heretofore “girls” like my daughter suddenly deciding they are “boys?” Shouldn’t they just be realizing they are not really “girls” or “boys?” And isn’t that already true of most of us?

And why are some “male” convicts insisting that they are “female?” Wouldn’t we simply have a single prison for all people? Same for sports, changing rooms and bathrooms?

In other words, if sex is a spectrum, most of our arguments about women’s rights end with the idea that there are almost no women in the world - so only the few Barbies might get women’s rights and the rest of us are basically in the same boat.

And there would be no reason for medical transition from one sex to the other since we all fall on this spectrum. Sure, one could have cosmetic surgery to move further down the scale in a given direction, but not based on a “gender identity” since the lack of “male” and “female” (again, except the Barbie’s and Ken’s, but anyone seeking these interventions would already prove they are not Barbie or Ken because they have a conflict between their body parts and mind which indicates they must be a mixed bag or somewhere on the spectrum) means there is nothing to transition into.

In sum, the whole notion of sex being on a spectrum destroys both women’s rights and any notion of a gender identity (the latter of which I. could do without because it makes no sense to me for other reasons).

If sex is on a spectrum, we need to forget about dividing anything by “male” and “female” since very few people are those things.

Lastly, I agree they some dsd’s slightly complicate the ability to neatly divide male from female - but more than 99% of all people can be easily divided in this manner. I would suggest that we do allow the very few with a medical disorder that makes their sex actually unclear choose which sex to identify as - or opt out of such classifications - and we accept that these people exist and have every right to participate fully in society. For the rest of us, we need to use biology to divide unless we truly believe we don’t ever need safe women’s spaces or sports - which I think would be a terrible mistake for obvious reasons of safety and fairness.

As for medical transition, these cosmetic choices to appear as the opposite sex are dangerous and experimental. We need to stop pretending this is life-saving medicine, and treat it as what it is. We need to stop glorifying it.

Sorry to go on and on, but this whole thing drives me crazy!

Susan Scheid's avatar

Aaron Kimberly brings a wonderfully subtle understanding to these issues, which I appreciate. For example, as reported by Lisa, “Kimberly saw many young lesbians longing to change their sex characteristics because they felt they couldn’t change the culture. If they gained a deeper understanding of the interplay between culture and biology, sometimes they’d decide not to change their bodies. Sometimes their embodied gender identity would shift.” I was speaking with a friend the other day who was “intellectually” intrigued by the notion that butch lesbians might be happier if they transitioned. I asked her if she understood what transitioning entailed, which she greeted with a blank stare. Though I can’t know what was in her mind, from the context I believe she had no idea. Among other things, it led me to wonder, again, why it is so hard for people to see that it would be far better for all of us to push for acceptance of all human variation, just as it comes, rather than advocating medicalization as the only option.

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