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Michele H.'s avatar

Great essay! Wish I could have been at that conference! I was recently in a heated conversation with a recent college graduate (a family member). She is liberal (her Ivy League education took care of that, plus she's in the creative world), but probably largely thanks to my many conversations with her about this topic, she does admit she agrees with me about the injustice of male bodies competing against female bodies. However, she believes that not using a person's desired pronouns makes one a "hateful bigot" and she launches into impassioned statements about how much prejudice and hate the transgender community have faced. I fully agree with your point that we need to speak up, to protect girls and women, and I believe one of the most effective ways to do so is in one-on-one conversations with people who know us to the extent that it may be harder for them to immediately judge us to be bigoted a-holes. Because I think that's one of the reasons more of us don't speak up. We don't want to be misinterpreted, and considered awful people - in part because that's a painful rejection, in part because that makes us less effective. Your statement, "I understand that some adults change their bodies to feel more comfortable. As long as they know the truth, and don’t expect me to subvert what I know to be true, I’m fine with that" - resonated as I had brought this up in my discussion with this young woman. I'm a therapist, and I said, "If I know you are female, but if out of 'respect' I call you a 'he,' how is that any different from my agreeing with an anorexic client that she needs to lose weight, or with someone whose grip on reality is tenuous that they are indeed being spied on by the government? And if you agree that that is problematic and dishonest, as a therapist - is it possible that it may also be problematic and dishonest of me as a human outside the therapy office?"

I think if we could create and communicate a Venn diagram with the following, maybe that's how we build more bridges: 1) compassionate, tolerant person 2) person who is grounded in scientific reality 3) policies that protect the vulnerable and that are fair and just. Because both can be true - I can be compassionate and tolerant, while being grounded in reality and believe in biology, etc - and we can create policies that protect the vulnerable while not doing so at the cost of hard-earned rights and need for safety.

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Puzzle Therapy's avatar

I think the most important thing to remember in having conversations is to stop trying to make all the points and get people to understand every issue at once. Changing a deeply held belief is hard, even painful, and isn’t going to happen on one conversation. Pushing too hard makes people dig in more.

In my experiences in a very liberal area, everyone, even those posting and saying all the familiar activist talking points, feels uncomfortable and concerned about what’s going on with teen girls. They actually seem relieved to have another liberal bring it up and give them the opportunity to say something doesn’t feel right about what’s happening with teen girls. But don’t use that to start pushing every other issue - sports, bathrooms, prisons - all at once. People need a lot of time thinking and talking about why the issue that seems so obviously concerning to them - the spike in teen girls - is a completely taboo topic their trusted media won’t report on accurately. Stay with that.

Keep in mind that most liberals who are privately concerned about teen girls still believe in the “born in the wrong body” child who was obviously gender nonconforming since the moment they could walk and talk and has been consistent, insistent, and persistent. They assume those children are carefully monitored and assessed and have to transition because they will never grow out of it. Be prepared to share the studies showing ~80% of children will outgrow dysphoria during puberty. This was a big shock for a friend I shared this with who thought blockers were necessary for young dysphoric children. But here’s the key and the hard part: don’t jump into your opinions or the issues around the 20% who *don’t* outgrow it. Those are later conversations and potential places for allowing disagreement. One step at a time, and people don’t have to agree on everything. Trying to push perfect agreement creates even less agreement and recognition of common ground.

I once heard someone say that a person’s beliefs on this topic are based on the experiences of the happiest trans person that they personally know. I think that is key to remember and to respect and have compassion for in conversations.

Finally, although the sports issue, especially Lia Thomas, often peaks people, sports does NOT seem to work for people who are deeply dug into their beliefs. We have found they will acknowledge issues of safety and fairness, but because it’s an area of cognitive dissonance they have already recognized in themselves and feel uncomfortable with not being able to reconcile. it’s the topic they are most resistant to discussing.

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