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Benjamin Ryan's avatar

I got PT to correct an error from Turban once. They told me that they don't run editors' notes about having posted corrections as a matter of policy. Which is totally amazing to me.

Digital Canary πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺπŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ—½'s avatar

β€œWe can’t tell earlier readers that we misrepresented this to them!”

L RiverOtter's avatar

I hope you never give up - I know this is a long, frustrating road to getting complete data and multiple viewpoints on gender medicine out there (although it sticks in my craw to refer to the butchery and poisoning being meted out now as medicine), but your writing on this deserves a wider market. I appreciate your approach and your tenacity immensely. I know your calm compassionate persistence has often helped me stay balanced when all I want to do is rage against what I see as a cult that has encouraged my son to destroy himself and to abandon the family who loves him.

Bill Bradford's avatar

So-called "gender medicine" is exactly as "real" as Christmas presents from Santa Claus, but NOT more real....

In the context of common current usage, "trans" means "not".... Therefore, "trans" persons are no longer human. They are TRANS human. ("transhuman"). That's the whole point, isn't it?....Therefore, trans rights are NOT "human rights", they are transhuman rights. Trans are NOT human....

Please, find the flaw in my logic here. Come on, I double-dog dare you!.... /lol/not....

Tom Steinberg's avatar

What you wrote -- just right! Your first two sentences are completely congruent with my thoughts. As for your final sentence, I am lucky to have dodged that trans-madness in my immediate family (so far) -- I offer my deepest sympathy.

I like your 'nym (or whatever the term). I am fortunate to be party to owning a stretch of creek with a river otter population . In my culture, an encounter with an otter is a matter of good fortune.

Susan Scheid's avatar

I'm so glad you are showing us more of this facet of your tremendous work over so many years to keep the media's feet to the fire. Brilliant work here, and nothing but gratitude for all you have done, with deep knowledge and phenomenal tenacity. πŸ™β€οΈπŸ™

Anon232's avatar

This was the very article my adult kid used to prove it was ok to go through with surgery. That, the AMA and APA. You can imagine, I'm just sick about it .

Bill Bradford's avatar

Your comment here is one more step along your healing path....is it not?.... When you find and follow your healing path, then may your adult kid also follow your lead along that healing path, also.... KEEP UP the GOOD WORK, Anon232!....

Anon232's avatar

Alternatively- ty Bill. We are all trying to get thru such difficult times with grace, dignity and connections intact.

Anon232's avatar

Hmmm.. ty? Sorry to say-Your comment feels slightly confusing and vague to me. I've been on that trajectory since this nightmare was dropped in my lap.. Someone in the universe did not patch that memo to my kid. But to be fair, my kid along with so many others has no real clue about the devastation and worry this causes those that love them-- steadfast and throughout their lives..

Anon232's avatar

Edit. That, and the AMA, the ASPS, APA, AAP etc.

Bill Bradford's avatar

So-called "gender dysphoria" is exactly as "real" as Christmas presents from Santa Claus, but NOT more real....

Please think carefully about what I'm saying here, and about what my claim is.

Do you agree? Disagree? Serious answers only, please....

Lisa Selin Davis's avatar

Some people definitely have feelings that we can classify as gender dysphoria. However, it's possible that many of the young kids who have it may have a social versionβ€”upset that they aren't the opposite sex. Whereas the distress that autogynephiles feel about their sexed body, that's probably something else. There are definitely young children who feel they would rather die than be the sex that they are. It's well-documented, whether you believe it or not.

Bill Bradford's avatar

You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. You're really arguing semantics, not scientific facts expressed in words. Yes, some people have feelings. In fact ALL people have feelings. And the ONLY actual reality those feelings have, is the subjective, internal perception of them, experienced by the person who is experiencing those feelings.

Try as you might, Lisa, you can only describe from outside, from a distance, the subjectively experienced feelings of any given other person. There is NO objective "test", that any person can perform, on any other person, to determine what feelings that person is experiencing. You can THINK you know what they are feeling, but you can NEVER KNOW scientifically what they are feeling. Same with "distress". That's simply another type, or verbal description, of these vague & nebulous "feelings". And, EVERYTHING we are discussing here is a cultural creation. It's a cultural artefact. Yes, I agree, there ARE "young children who *FEEL* they would "RATHER" "DIE" than be the sex that they ARE."...So what? Those "feelings" do NOT constitute an independent "disease" or "disorder" or "syndrome", etc., ENTITY... So called "trans" is no more "real" than any arbitrary set of feelings & thoughts is real.....You haven't studied any Buddhism, have you? Buddhist thought on impermanence, and the transitory, impermanent nature of the self would prove very enlightening for you, IMHO....

Mike Walker's avatar

Brilliant work as ever.

Thank you.

Lisa Anllo PhD's avatar

Did they change the misleading subtitle?

Tom Steinberg's avatar

What L River wrote earlier today! As complete and eloquent as I'd wish to be.