I still don't understand why protection from discriminationbased on "gender identity" is what trans activists want. If an MTF is barred from a women's locker room, that's *not* discrimination based on gender identity. The MTF and the women, according to activists, share the *same* gender identity, that of "woman." It's discrimination based on what's *different* between them — which is sex.
For some reason this is not the legal argument normally advanced but I'd love to know why.
This type of proposition is written this way on purpose, perhaps. It’s designed to appeal to the liberal base (of course we’re against discrimination) while opening the door to all sorts of things most voters oppose.
I’m afraid that this is a tactic of activists. Many of the laws that have enabled the erosion of women’s rights—such as what happened in the Tickle v Giggle case in Australia—have been introduced in this guise.
Not "Not yet", no. It's poorly drafted, perhaps carelessly, perhaps deliberately. It doesn't do what it says in the adverts. It has to be rejected firmly. (Though it's not my place to comment).
This proposal is another one of these things where the people proposing it either know what they're doing, or they don't, and it's hard to know which of these possibilities is more frightening.
The suggestion that the proponents don't know what they're doing is overly generous to the point of being confusing. No, they know exactly what they are doing. There have been too many preposterous results already for anyone to claim in good faith otherwise.
Our family lived in Manhattan (where my husband is from and our children were born) but we have been in the PNW for years now. Let me just say-SHEESH! I just want to raise more awareness of how WAY WOKE the Pacific Northwest is. Seattle, Portland and SF have taken liberal progressive to another level. Unless you live here, you just can't truly get it. Seattle in particular is mecca for all things radical and unsafe on many levels. Schools have become ground zero. See NYT & ST, What Have We Liberals Done to the West Coast by Nicholas Kristoff--another by Jon Talton Seattle and Other Liberal Western Cities Face a Reckoning. Parents need to be super proactive! https://nwtsj.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/NWTSJ-Flyer-2024.pdf
I still don't understand why protection from discriminationbased on "gender identity" is what trans activists want. If an MTF is barred from a women's locker room, that's *not* discrimination based on gender identity. The MTF and the women, according to activists, share the *same* gender identity, that of "woman." It's discrimination based on what's *different* between them — which is sex.
For some reason this is not the legal argument normally advanced but I'd love to know why.
This type of proposition is written this way on purpose, perhaps. It’s designed to appeal to the liberal base (of course we’re against discrimination) while opening the door to all sorts of things most voters oppose.
I’m afraid that this is a tactic of activists. Many of the laws that have enabled the erosion of women’s rights—such as what happened in the Tickle v Giggle case in Australia—have been introduced in this guise.
This is excellent, Lisa. Tremendously thoughtful, well worth sharing with friends and colleagues. Thank you.
Not "Not yet", no. It's poorly drafted, perhaps carelessly, perhaps deliberately. It doesn't do what it says in the adverts. It has to be rejected firmly. (Though it's not my place to comment).
This proposal is another one of these things where the people proposing it either know what they're doing, or they don't, and it's hard to know which of these possibilities is more frightening.
The suggestion that the proponents don't know what they're doing is overly generous to the point of being confusing. No, they know exactly what they are doing. There have been too many preposterous results already for anyone to claim in good faith otherwise.
Our family lived in Manhattan (where my husband is from and our children were born) but we have been in the PNW for years now. Let me just say-SHEESH! I just want to raise more awareness of how WAY WOKE the Pacific Northwest is. Seattle, Portland and SF have taken liberal progressive to another level. Unless you live here, you just can't truly get it. Seattle in particular is mecca for all things radical and unsafe on many levels. Schools have become ground zero. See NYT & ST, What Have We Liberals Done to the West Coast by Nicholas Kristoff--another by Jon Talton Seattle and Other Liberal Western Cities Face a Reckoning. Parents need to be super proactive! https://nwtsj.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/NWTSJ-Flyer-2024.pdf